This week, Bob and Matt journey out of the 21st century and all the way to 1985 for the Academy's first Best Picture-nominated Indie, "Kiss of the Spider Woman." They discuss the layered symbolism, the graceful performances, and the most elegant pants-crapping scene in the history of cinema. Matt tries explaining to Bob who the spider woman is and Bob reads a film festival rejection letter for his short film “The Cookbook.” Plus, how the movie defined masculinity, power, and love. All that and more!